i'm going to my jw "bible" study tonight.
we are on chapter 8 and will pick up at par 15. any suggestions for questions to ask?.
Eat his lunch with this information.
http://www.144000.110mb.com/directory/607_bce_586_587_destruction_fall_desolation_jerusalem.html
http://www.144000.110mb.com/directory/jehovahs_witnesses_144000_144_000_heaven.html
http://www.144000.110mb.com/directory/1914_jehovahs_witnesses_christs_second_coming.html
well thanks to this site i have come to realize i am being shunned........i think.
i find this really funny because my wife and i were never df or da, and we walked out in the late 1960's.
and no one in the family ever shunned us.. without making too much out of it my niece has not invited us to visit and meet our new nephew.
Verging on the macabre in this 21st Century, the Jehovah's Witnesses' draconian practice of disfellowshipping and shunning current and former members is one of the most controversial aspects of this religion and has caused untold psychological and physical harm to thousands. The Watchtower Society mislabels the practice of shunning and disfellowshipping as an act of love and a means of enforcing conformity.
Anyone considering joining the Jehovah's Witnesses is advised to pay close attention to the consequences and repercussions of not living up to the Watchtower Society's standards, or questioning their doctrine. The ultimate price might be unbearable and irreversible. To assist you in making the right decision and help you learn more about this practice, visit the websites listed below for additional information.
http://www.144000.110mb.com/directory/shunning_disfellowshipped_shunning_disfellowshipping.html
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/famca/2009/737.html?stem=0&synonyms=0&query=jehovah.
2009 case of interest of course to those undergoing or about to undergo custody disputes.. basics are that non jw wife was awarded full custody and esp in medical matters (blood came up) .
that some limitations were placed on jw father in regards to involving a child.
I've always wondered what issues a court might focus on in deciding the best interest of a child. Is there that much different between the US and Australia, Canada, GB, etc.? Here are a few I thought of:
http://www.144000.110mb.com/directory/child_custody_jehovahs_witnesses.html
Does the parent want their child raised as a Jehovah's Witness by the other parent? How much of the child's exposure to that religion is acceptable? Is it in the best interest of the child to allow the Jehovah's Witness parent to prohibit a necessary blood transfusion should the necessity arise? Who decides? How much notice of pending medical procedures is required? Are the risks and hazards of shunning a child or requiring the child to shun others in the child's best interest? Is the child being placed at unacceptable risk by going door-do-door in the Jehovah's Witnesses ministry?
Is it in the child's best interest to prohibit the child from celebrating birthdays, Christmas and other holidays? Who determines with whom the child may associate? What if the child does not want to participate in that religion? Do any of the particular teachings of the Watchtower Society negatively impact the child's psychological well being? How much control of your child by non-family members is acceptable? Can your child be forced to be home schooled by the Jehovah's Witness parent? Is it in a baptized child's best interest to be compelled to shun a non-believing disfellowshipped parent? Is it in a disfellowshipped child's best interest to be shunned by a believing parent and/or siblings?
i remember when i was a witless, i spouted the words "it's the most accurate translation".... i'm sure you did too :).
i've been researching the topic of just how badly the nwt is mistranslated.
i keep finding more and more examples of blatant mutilation of scriptures in the nwt.. for the record, i love to know just where are they finding these "scholars" to prop up their assertions that their joke of a bible is the "most accurate"?
Almost every website addressing the accuracy of the NWT is listed here and very few defend its accuracy.
http://www.144000.110mb.com/directory/new_world_translation_bible_holy_scriptures.html
gah, i'm having such a hard time understanding thiss!
dx okay, this is about to get a little ugly since i kinda have a lot to ask.
heregoes... -some apostates were trying to, i guess, upset me by bringing up several dates the watchtower has made "false predictions" in such as the 1800s and 1900s.
I think you're baiting us and aren't who you claim to be. You sound like Angel Eyes again. But just the same:
There is an ocean of evidence.
Destruction of Jerusalem 607 is one of the big ones. Lots of information here:
http://www.144000.110mb.com/directory/607_bce_586_587_destruction_fall_desolation_jerusalem.html
A mountain of false prophecy information is listed here:
http://www.144000.110mb.com/directory/false_prophets_prophecies_jehovahs_witnesses.html
here in europe, we have started different initiatives aiming at exposing publicly and legally the watchtower on the subject of ostracism, discrimination and shunning.. in the past we have seen different manifestations held in front of kingdom halls or branch offices on issues such as pedophilia and blood transfusions policies, and even, such as in france, against building of real-estates.
now it seems that the issue of discrimination against disfellowshipped or dissociated people is gaining momentum.
we have seen the large demonstrations in brazil, and maybe the lesser important ones elsewhere.
In the context of child custody diputes, there might be an argument that shunning is not in the child's best interest.
That argument is laid out here: http://www.144000.110mb.com/directory/child_custody_jehovahs_witnesses.html
Witness for the Truth
8-11; ch.
as in ch.
like the "great crowd", they are "of every race, language, people, and nation (cf.
Jonathan-
Why don't you post a Directory on the goofy ideas of the Fundamentalists and Evangelicals.
Fair for the goose is fair for the gander, or with you guys is it a case of Sauce for the goose is Terrible for the gander.
I intend to. I hope to provide links to "Christendom" and for Jews like yourself a link to online Judaism resources. I also provide pro-jw links as well at the new Directory, and even something for deluded atheists. Hope you find it useful. Here is the link again and thanks for your interest.
http://www.144000.110mb.com/directory/jehovahs_witnesses_directory_beliefs.html
J.D.
some of you may know, i've been meeting with a jw lady, for a "bible" study (i hate calling it that).
i've been trying to end it pretty much since.
i've gotten more insight on their religion...i've blantently said that i don't like the "governing body", i don't agree with the blood doctrine, can't.
"that's true cameo in mathew 28:18 he says , all authority in heaven and earth were given to him not that he had it to begin with . It is obvious by his comments throughout the new testament that he never once boasted equality even tho he says such things as he and the father are one just as he and his followers would be one in purpose and that was to do Gods will. I just don't know what the comment equal in nature was supposed to mean since he was responsible for creating nature on earth. The whole point of him coming to earth was to give his perfect human existence as a ransom , a price paid in exchange for another. "
Me: You don't undertand the Trinity doctrine or the nature of the hypostic union. These pages will clear up your confusion.
many outsiders see good in the w.t.
and many insiders see good in the w.t.. so is not the w:t like any other organisation based on idealisam and growth.
acolytes.
How about:
Shunning and Disfellowshipping
They have Roots in the Occult
They deny the deity of Christ
The injury caused to children
Homicide by denying blood transfusions
The destruction of careers and lives pursuant to their "this generation" teachings
And the fact that they are antichrist.
It's a very long list ...
is there anything in wts literature as to which century the alleged non-anointed class of the wts began to form?.
i thought it was early on in the 20th century.. am i wrong?.
vander.
I suspect you can find your answer in the Great Crowd directory here, a long category of links to websites focused on this issue.
